Tuesday, October 28, 2008


Below is a compilation of articles received on Barak Obama.

Interesting website:



Why I Can't Vote For Obama By Huntley Brown

Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...
> First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.
> Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.
> I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
> In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.
> We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.
> NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
> To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
> There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supp orts him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
> Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue
> The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
> A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
> B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
> C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
> D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
> E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
> God help him. There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.
> Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.
> There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.
> Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 2 0 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?
> Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 'Go and make disciples of all nations.' This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
> Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...
> 1. Commitment to the White Community
> 2. Commitment to the White Family
> 3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
> 4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
> 5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
> 6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
> 7. Personal commitment to emb racement of the White Value System.
> Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
> Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.
> This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.
> A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it?s a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.
> Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: 'Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.
> Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
> So what does all this mean for the nation?
> In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.
> Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 'Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.'
> Then God says
> 1 Samuel 1:18 ' When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.' 19 B ut the people refused to listen to Samuel. 'No!' they said. 'We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.' 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, 'Listen to them and give them a king.'
> Here is what we know for sure.
> God is not schizophrenic
> He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.
> Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.
> For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of pa rtial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.
> I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.
> Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,
> 1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation?
> 2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?
> Blessings, Huntley Brown

> Obama's Trip to Grandma's House Has a Detour thru the Hawaii Supreme Court??

By Informed Lawyer - Posted on October 21st, 2008

If you are deeply saddened by Obama's need to take two days off from a VERY close and heated election race to visit his deathly ill grandmother, fear no more!

Word has it that grandma will indeed recuperate. The problem may actually be with Obama.

You see, it appears that "An hour or so before Obama’s announcement, conservative commentator and Obama critic Andy Martin was scheduled to file an emergency petition with the Hawaii Supreme Court to “release Barack Obama’s family records,” including his “birth certificate and related records.” (No additional information at this time.)"

See: Curmudgeonly Skeptical Blog at: http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/2008/10/colb.html

"Martin alleges that the public should have access to the complete file of Barack Obama’s birth records, that we have a constitutional right to satisify ourselves as to a candidate’s qualifications for public office. In his emergency motion to the Hawaii
Supreme Court Monday, Martin, representing himself, argues two valid points: First, that “the authenticity and contents of a presidential candidate’s birth certificate is at the apex of First Amendment concerns.” And second: “….If Obama has posted a version of his birth certificate (on his website), it would appear he has waived any privacy issues…”

See: TD Blog at: http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/obama-goes-to-hawaii/

Barack Hussein Obama II

By Judah Benjamin

It has been asserted by a number of sources, including Andy Martin, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombassa, Kenya and not in Hawaii.

Philip Berg's Latest Motion to the Court is more explicit since it gives an exact Place of Birth. I must assume that Berg did not simply pluck the Location out of thin air, Mombassa has more than one Hospital, though Coast Provincial General was the best in 1961.

British Birth Certificates have a Standard Format which has been more or less the same since 1837 and they can only be challenged in a British Court. Kenyan Law is explicit and can only be challenged in a Kenyan Court. Indonesian Law is explicit and can only be challenged in an Indonesian Court. Be clear, if Obama was born in Kenya this is not simply a matter for the US Courts, or US Law.

If he was born in Kenya, and his parents were Legally Married [which on the Preponderance of Evidence they were, his father's first "Marriage" being a Tribal, or Village, Marriage, which was not Legally Recognized] due to the age of his mother he would NOT have been a US Citizen. The Immigration and Nationality Act 1952, 8 U.S.C. 1401. Sec. 301 (g) [Effective November 14, 1986] does not apply, nor does Title III, Immigration and Nationality Act Section 309. [8 U.S.C. 1409].

Unless he has taken the Oath of Allegiance as a Naturalized Citizen since he was 18 years old, and if he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama II would not be a US Citizen, period. The issue of whether or not he was Natural Born under Article II of the Constitution of the United States would cease to matter and he would need to be Deported as an Illegal Alien.

Impeachment as a Senator would seem not to be necessary since he would never Legally have been one, but Diane Feinstein and the members of the Senate Ethics and Rules Committee would be liable to Impeachment. So would their opposite numbers in the Illinois Senate and the appropriate officials of the Illinois State Supreme Court and Bar, so far as I can see.

If Senator Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombassa in Kenya at 7.24 PM on August 4th 1961, or at any other time, he is not a Natural Born Citizen of these United States and he never was. Philip J Berg, Esq, is correct, under the Nationality Act of 1940, as Revised June 1952 and in accord with United States of America vs Cervantes-Nava 281 F 3d 501 (2002) and Drozd vs INS, 155 F 3d 81, 85-88 (2d Circuit 1998).

Senator Barack Hussein Obama II would not ever have been a Legal US Citizen at all, unless he was Naturalized.

If he was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombassa in Kenya any Certificate, or Certification of Live Birth, issued for him by the State of Hawaii is a Fraudulent and Illegal Document.

At Birth he would have been a UK and Colonies Citizen and in accord with the Kenyan Constitution he would have become a Kenyan Citizen in December 1963. He would not have been a US Citizen.

Alternatively, his UK and Colonies Birth Certificate issued in Mombassa in August 1961 could be a Fraudulent and Illegal Document. The two BCs would need to be compared. By this I mean the Original Vault Copy of the Hawaiian Birth Certificate and not the Amended, Post Adoption, Copy, Legally available to the Senator, assuming he was, as indicated by the Preponderance of Evidence, Adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

This case might also need to go through the UK and Kenyan Courts and becomes a Matter of International Law and Controversy.

Posted by Alan Peters at 3:40 PM

ALAN PETERS: For many years involved with intelligence and
security matters in Iran with significant access at top levels during the
rule of the Shah, until early 1979. Currently an Iran SME (subject matter
expert), analyst/commentator, and multi-linguist.


From Sunday's Televised 'Meet the Press'
> Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill
> Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama
> to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when
> the National Anthem is played.
> The General also stated to the Senator that
> according to the United States Code,
> Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition
> of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all
> present except those in uniform are expected to stand
> attention facing the flag with the right hand over the
> heart. At the very least, 'Stand and Face It'
> Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, 'As
> I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be
> perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot
> of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol
> of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like
> message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It
> should be swapped for something less parochial and less
> bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the
> World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might
> salute it.'We should consider to reinvent our National
> Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our
> enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to
> disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East
Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should
> conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace
> prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord
> between our governments. When I become President, I will
> seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those
> who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom
> from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have
> placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My
> wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons.
> Together she and I have attended several flag burning
> ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views
> and I have mine'. Of course now, I have found myself
> about to become the President of the United States and I
> have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring
CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of

hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our
Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to
overwhelm the United States of America.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This
could possibly be our next President.
I, for one, am speechless.
Dale Lindsborg, WashingtonPost

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