Friday, December 19, 2008

Do you see how things can mushroom into a 3 ring Circus??

Old Soldier Tom's Journal.

Wow! This gentleman is really out for blood...|LOL! I can tell that 'Hugo' is highly educated, in my humble opinion, and I know that Mr. Hugo is telling the truth about certain aspects of the Vietnam War. If only he had the where with all to put these historic facts before the American people and Congress and the VA, perhaps he could do some good! However, Hugo doesn't have ALL THE FACTS RIGHT YET. He doesn't really know me well enough to make all of his presumptions about my character, beliefs and the Bible. I can guess that he is not an American citizen by his verbal usage, writing style, grammar, etc., but he is very knowledgeable and educated. In fact, I welcome good, clean, spirited arguments with MERIT and TRUTH. I also admit that I don't know everything and continue to learn new things, that I am sometimes wrong and wrong headed-- but I am firm in my beliefs about God Word- the Bible.

Now, concerning the Mei Lai massacre in Vietnam, I actually know TOO much and enough to get myself and others in trouble, although I was not in that location at the time. It was a horrible tragedy and nightmare and it was murder, IMHO, but the little Company grade officers took the heat for what the Generals should have been blamed as they really gave the order! And 'we' collectively were guilty of some bad serious things, but again--soldiers take orders. A civilian just would not know about those things. We can also talk intelligently about the US ideology, mistakes and cover ups that still affect the Vietnamese and our own US Soldiers who continue to suffer and die every day. Many mistakes are/ were made in combat and war.... even from the beginning of time to now. War is a terrible thing-- but a well armed Military/ Army/ Navy is needed for survival. That's a fact and the harsh reality! Hugo conveniently fails to talk about the violent history of the Muslims and Buddhists and their ideology... they preach one thing yet do another... same as they accuse us of. But there are plenty of "false Christians" too.
As for the Bible, Hugo, you don't know a thing about that book, it seems, and you are NOT a believer. You are locked into a false religion, and you pick and choose what you want to highlight. I respect you as a human being and your Faith-- but I certainly do not agree with it--and you on many issues. Osama Bin Ladin is another issue that I would like to talk about latter, and he is no buddy of mine either. You say that Osama is YOUR
Mr. Hugo, may I please have your full name and the country/ state or region where you live? I still can't find you personal email address....HELLO! This is your LAST chance to be identified and state you full name, country and mailing address-- or you're just another third world chicken. Cluck, cluck....
Have a great day.

Tom S

Wisconsin, USA.

Well I am glad somebody is getting a good laugh from this circus...LOL Here is my comrade in arms, friend --Honolulu Dick's [ARMY - MACV-RVN] comment/ email:
Aloha DoorGunner,

DoorGunner, DoorGunner, DoorGunner, look at what you have gone and done!!!
have mentioned, on a couple of occasions, that you would like to have
a few more
blog-site followers. Now you got what you wished for. You got your
Buddy' HUGO. I'm cracking up so bad that I can hardly type his

Also, its highly amusing to know that you have a 'Second Good Buddy'
in Ossama
Been Hiding, as suggested by Hugo. Your list keeps growing!!!
Good on you!!!

Am surprised to learn that you thoughtlessly, carelessly, but

with firm
determination, wiped-out 83-members of his wife's family.
This is a malicious
act that only a 'Terrible Tom' could inflict on poor peasants;
a "proud crime"
against his family.

You are doing just fine, DoorGunner. Keep-up the good work.
I'm out here
cheering you onward. You got a live one on your hands at long last.

Onward Christian Soldier, Onward.

Take good care ----------------------


Narrow Seadog Two Two


Thanks and praise,
For our days,
Neath the sun,
Neath the stars,
Neath the sky,
As we go,
This we know,
God is nigh.

TAPS --- The melody that leads a soldiers soul to join Gods eternal army.


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Blogger HUGO said...

Dear Sir,

Do you really mean that God himself wanted You to massacre 83 people in my wife's family... is ''heli-gunnertom'' the Christian name which you WILL use to introduce yourself to Him, after death?

They were poor vietnamese peasants, weakened by French colonialism, no health care, no career - no travel, of course, to compare with foreign solutions!!! But a very deep respect for their ancestors' honourable traditions.

How did they threaten your country? What is the ''pacific'' way out from dictatorship you could offer them, to expect a decent future for their children?

That ugly war was not your fault, indeed. But Jesus said "What you are doing to the smallest, to my humblest creatures, you are doing it to me".

And 33 years later, babies are still being born as MONSTERS, terrifying monsters, some of them with 2 HEADS and no arms... it is expected to last 50 more years. Did God instruct YOU to bring unending punishment to people who were NOT your enemies?

Yes, you look like being generous, a good listener, how could you choose to maintain such an aggressive name/reputation? Please, do leave that for brutal borderline racist desperados, and you will become a real gentleman.

December 17, 2008 7:42:00 AM PST

Blogger Heli gunner Tom said...

Hugo, buddy,
I don't have sufficient space in this 'comment forum' to set you straight on some erroneous aspects of YOUR comment. And just like I figured, YOUR 'web site' doesn't exist-- "no profile available !!" That tells me that you are a coward who strikes a sneak blow and then disappears quickly beneath the rock you live under...Ha! I could indeed change the name of my Journal and maybe I should. Actually, I now call it "Old Soldier Tom's Journal." -- from my old AOL Journal days. That was a real mess and I was 'stuck' with 'heli-gunner Tom's blogspot.'
But I doubt you were in the military, or you would KNOW that young soldiers of ANY nation take an Oath to serve and protect their country. And just what does a 19 year old really know except that he trusts that his country will do the 'right thing.'
Yes, I HATE what our country did, like poisoning the people, yours and mine with Agent Orange! Remember, that is the Administration that YOU helped elect! I was not 'old enough to vote yet.' Too bad you are not man enough to give me your email address so that we can discuss this subject in depth and I will tell you what the Viet Cong and NVA did to the Vietnamese people and our soldiers in the way of torture, murder, mutilation, etc. Soldiers of the Lord God were instructed to kill off whole nations of men, women and kids in the Bible, for the Lord said that they were that evil and rotten to the core. I will be more than glad to discuss politics and military operations with you ANYTIME when you get your manhood back in order to give me your full name and email address. I NEVER FIRED ON ANYONE UNLESS THEY FIRED ON ME FIRST, AND I NEVER DROPPED ANY AGENT ORANGE... but I have plenty of close friends who are dying of it! Until you work up your courage and get your facts straight-- go fly a kite.


December 17, 2008 2:28:00 PM PST

Blogger Carolyn said...

Bravo Tom. It's sad when people will read one small part of a blog and believe they know the person who authors it. I don't doubt the vioetnam war, or any other war for that matter, has caused great harm to people- BUT, when you think of atrocities which are avoided by going militarily against dictators and brutal rejemes, well, I don't like war and I don't know anyone who does- but I know and millions of others know that it is sometimes necessary. If I wanted to play the same game mr. Hugo is playing, I could make the assumption that he is one of millions who picks and chooses which parts of the Bible which suit him, and leave all the rest as something out dated and insignificant. However, I don't know mr. Hugo- so I won't assume anything except that he owes you and all of our soldiers- past present and future, a humble appology. God Bless you Tom. Thank you for who you are.

December 17, 2008 4:24:00 PM PST

Blogger Jimmy's Journal said...

One of my best friends is a surgeon who served in the Gulf War and I guarantee you that the syndrome is real. If you've never played the game you just don't get it. It's easy to deny its existence when you sit your butt behind a desk in Washington and tell the players that it's not real. It's just like the agent orange deal...deny,deny,deny.


December 17, 2008 4:29:00 PM PST

Blogger HUGO said...

Dear Mr Schuckman,

A Buddhist, yes; your ''Buddy'', probably not.

1) Although I tried to stay polite after your proud crimes against my family;
You chose to insult me (''You are a coward''... deprived of manhood... ''work up your courage''... not man enough... ''go fly a kite...''). Very american attitude?!

2) False argument: I DID mention my e-mail address. And, there, I was informed of your noble comment (if you did not know, just blame A.O.L. again, for the bad transmission, as you already blamed their "real mess").
But this is definitely out of the matter: A blog is made for expressing your most sincere convictions, completely, in the open, since YOU are not a coward.

3) False argument (inversely): I did NOT mention any website, this trumped-up quarrel is between you and yourself only. I do not hate you. Sorry for that unrest. Probably an excess of zealous Love?

4) As your authentic buddy, the Charitable £ady with a bird of prey, stresses it, Yes, I consider as being outdated, the glorious killings which you refer to ("TO KILL OFF WHOLE NATIONS OF MEN, WOMEN AND KIDS"). The name, for this, is now Genocide.
I do excuse you because the u.s. were The LAST country on earth to ratify the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. On June 1st, 2008. Four years after the other members of The United Nations.

5) Unfortunately for you, who consider mass murder as a remedy against Evil And Rotten... you got a second buddy, with the same perfect Faith: His name is Ossama bin Laden.
He speaks your exact words.
He is not a Retired heli-gunner.
It is his only goal in life!!!
And, so, he might truly kill you ALL, without blessed B52 bomber planes, without exquisite napalm jelly, without salutary cluster bombs, without sweet Agent Orange, without refreshing flame-throwers, without Biblical ''Bouncing Betty'' land mines etc... Nasty germs would do the job easily.
OF COURSE, THIS WOULD BE NO GALLANT FIGHT. But your own theory does help him to give free way to his barbarian hysteria, without the slightest remorse........... Are you really fond of martyrdom??? Are you obliged to plead for his crazy wrong-doings, in advance?

6) Regarding your Oath to serve and protect your country, I shall skip the theme of the Conscientious Objectors - since you already explained that you approve genocide: Typically, the massacre in the EVIL village of My Lai, under command of Lieutenant Calley. A ''Free Kill Zone''. Even invalid old people were slaughtered; AND evil, rotten babies, AND cattle, evil dogs and rotten poultry. How could you forget such monsters, in your list of masterworks?

But EVERYONE ON EARTH, NOWADAYS, IS FULLY AWARE OF THE LIE: The pentagon itself disclosed the case, recently. The ''Maddox'' destroyer was on duty, to provoke a battle at sea, to legitimate the war. But it did not take place.

So, now, to speak softly, no provocative words, I ''humbly apology'' to pray you: Would you, please, explain me, what 550.000 army men in Viêt Nam were PROTECTING in your country? Since you are NOT cowards, the threat surely was crystal clear, and terrible, to need 550.000 plus thousands of planes, helicopters - and twice as much ammunition load, compared with what Germany received during World War II. Good Lord, you survived The Rotten Evil Devil's total destruction of your country. And we still ignore the details.........!

As a matter of fact, YOU, personally, you rushed there, over the ocean, to respond because ''THEY fired on you FIRST'' (you are not a coward). And to show them the Love of God because you and the brave £ady cannot forgive Brutal Rejemes.
And they were so wicked, so vicious... they did not welcome Exterminating Angels with open arms!!

Yes, I humbly apologize, I am not able to kill kill kill as happily and proudly as you did (With No Brutality at all).
I swear it, I will no longer deny deny deny your sense of charitable sacrifice.


(B52 ''strategic'' bomber planes were blessed by Francis Joseph Cardinal Spellman, on the u.s.air force base of Bien Hoa, on Christmas eve, 1966. I saw him brilliantly smiling on television in Sài Gon, 10 miles away. And air force General Curtis Le May gently declared: "We shall bring Viêt Nam back to the stone age")

December 18, 2008 8:52:00 PM PST


A Little Gun History Lesson.

Old Soldier Tom's Journal.

A Little Gun History Lesson:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.


It has now been over 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3. 2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it..

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians

disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,

gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it ' s too late!

The next time someone talks in f
avor of gun control, please remind him

of this history lesson.

With Guns............ We Are 'Citizens'.

Without Them........ We Are 'Subjects'.

During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921; and was Naval Attaché to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor and our Army had been deprived of funding and was ill- prepared to defend the country.

It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. and knew that almost all households had guns.

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all your friends!