This may seem to be a minor point compared to being SAVED, and the 2nd coming of Christ, etc., but I think it's best to understand everything that is true and honest in life and the Bible.
Having been to many different churches and talking to myriads of people and pastors on this subject--- all I ever wanted was the real truth. We must understand that drunkenness is a serious sin, and people who practice/ live continually in drunkenness without repenting will not inherit God's Kingdom. See: 1st Corinthians 6:9-10. People do stupid and dangerous things when they drink too much! Yet drinking in moderation is NOT condemned by the Bible! No matter what so-called Bible "scholar" or 'agenda driven' pastors say or preach!
As I was typing this post, the Time Warner Cable TV guy came over to check out a malfunction with our set, and cleared it up. I used one of my favorite "openers" about being a Vietnam Vet, and the guy named, Bill, said that his Dad was over there too [and prob died way to early in life from Agent Orange. [More on "openers" and 'ice breakers' latter-- if you want, plus my past Sales experience that I use now as a Christian]. I asked him if he was a Christian, and he said yes, and after a brief discussion, as he was pressed for time, I gave him a $15 copy of the DEFINED KJV Bible and told him to compare it with his own bible-- the differences, benefits, etc. OK... I did something 'good' in sharing the truth of the God's Word. But now... if I now decided to get drunk later-- I would negate all the good that I did prior to that, and that would be a sin, and kind of stupid and irresponsible of me. Let this be my own private 'victory in Christ' -- something good that happen to me today-- that I am sharing with my readers now--YOU] I choose NOT to sin, but the Holy Spirit helps me out BIG TIME in guarding myself against unwise, goofy, trash that flies into my imperfect brain. We will never be perfect this side of heaven-- but we can and do get better. We read/ study the Bible, and then apply it with the help of the Holy Spirit as best we can-- and build on what we know and understand-- and pass this good stuff on to others. That is the Christian way of life, IMHO. PTL. I just thought I would share that small tidbit with you. I guess I fall into the category of "seed planter" and I may never know what good I tried to sow and plant. I am hoping to 'store up my treasures in heaven, where moth and rust cannot consume.' But I have always wanted to mentor some younger guys, or new people that are just starting to learn about the Bible and God. It's fun and very rewarding for me.
Have a nice, warm day! May God bless all true Believers who are suffering in the name of Jesus Christ, in the world. The USA is only beginning to smell the evil in the winds blowing through our 'once great' country. We EXPECT things to deteriorate quickly in America just like the rest of this ungodly world of Satan.... and I heard a curious thing on Christian radio yesterday. FLASH! We are not experiencing great horror and persecution in the USA BECAUSE our pastors and preachers, for the most part, are NOT preaching the TRUTH of the Bible and Jesus Christ in a bold, fearless, honest way!! Too many cowards, worldly, corrupted, money-centric, gutless, 'seeker-friendly' pastors/ churches who are afraid to rock the boat with the TRUTH! Sorry to sound so graphic, but this fact really moves me. But don't worry-- God has His time table set in motion and nothing can stop or delay His agenda and promises.
Disabled Vietnam Veteran: 68-70, and Soldier of Christ.
Q. Is there any way to know for certain whether Jesus and His disciples drank wine or juice at the institution of the Lord’s supper?
A. I believe this issue arose because some who are opposed to Christians drinking alcoholic beverages try to make the claim that Jesus never drank alcohol. There are plenty of ways to dispute this, but the clearest is in Matt. 11:18-19.
For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and “sinners.”
But for those who desire more evidence that wine was served at the Lord’s supper, here’s a response based on deductive reasoning that a regular visitor to the site sent me.
He wrote, ” What time of year was/is the Passover observed? March/April, right? What time of year did our Lord and His disciples observe the Lord’s Supper? At Passover, right? What time of year are the grapes harvested? Around September, right? Did they have refrigeration or pasteurization back then? No? Then how could they have kept the juice from fermenting during the winter? After seven months of storage, you’d have some pretty good wine.
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