http://heli-gunnertom.blogspot.com/
Wow! This gentleman is really out for blood...|LOL! I can tell that 'Hugo' is highly educated, in my humble opinion, and I know that Mr. Hugo is telling the truth about certain aspects of the Vietnam War. If only he had the where with all to put these historic facts before the American people and Congress and the VA, perhaps he could do some good! However, Hugo doesn't have ALL THE FACTS RIGHT YET. He doesn't really know me well enough to make all of his presumptions about my character, beliefs and the Bible. I can guess that he is not an American citizen by his verbal usage, writing style, grammar, etc., but he is very knowledgeable and educated. In fact, I welcome good, clean, spirited arguments with MERIT and TRUTH. I also admit that I don't know everything and continue to learn new things, that I am sometimes wrong and wrong headed-- but I am firm in my beliefs about God Word- the Bible.
Now, concerning the Mei Lai massacre in Vietnam, I actually know TOO much and enough to get myself and others in trouble, although I was not in that location at the time. It was a horrible tragedy and nightmare and it was murder, IMHO, but the little Company grade officers took the heat for what the Generals should have been blamed as they really gave the order! And 'we' collectively were guilty of some bad serious things, but again--soldiers take orders. A civilian just would not know about those things. We can also talk intelligently about the US ideology, mistakes and cover ups that still affect the Vietnamese and our own US Soldiers who continue to suffer and die every day. Many mistakes are/ were made in combat and war.... even from the beginning of time to now. War is a terrible thing-- but a well armed Military/ Army/ Navy is needed for survival. That's a fact and the harsh reality! Hugo conveniently fails to talk about the violent history of the Muslims and Buddhists and their ideology... they preach one thing yet do another... same as they accuse us of. But there are plenty of "false Christians" too.
As for the Bible, Hugo, you don't know a thing about that book, it seems, and you are NOT a believer. You are locked into a false religion, and you pick and choose what you want to highlight. I respect you as a human being and your Faith-- but I certainly do not agree with it--and you on many issues. Osama Bin Ladin is another issue that I would like to talk about latter, and he is no buddy of mine either. You say that Osama is YOUR buddy...lol??
Mr. Hugo, may I please have your full name and the country/ state or region where you live? I still can't find you personal email address....HELLO! This is your LAST chance to be identified and state you full name, country and mailing address-- or you're just another third world chicken. Cluck, cluck....
Have a great day.
Tom S
tschuckman@aol.com
Wisconsin, USA.
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Well I am glad somebody is getting a good laugh from this circus...LOL Here is my comrade in arms, friend --Honolulu Dick's [ARMY - MACV-RVN] comment/ email:
Aloha DoorGunner,
DoorGunner, DoorGunner, DoorGunner, look at what you have gone and done!!!
You
have mentioned, on a couple of occasions, that you would like to have
a few more
blog-site followers. Now you got what you wished for. You got your
'Good
Buddy' HUGO. I'm cracking up so bad that I can hardly type his
message.
Also, its highly amusing to know that you have a 'Second Good Buddy'
in Ossama
Been Hiding, as suggested by Hugo. Your list keeps growing!!!
Good on you!!!
Am surprised to learn that you thoughtlessly, carelessly, but
with firm
determination, wiped-out 83-members of his wife's family.
This is a malicious
act that only a 'Terrible Tom' could inflict on poor peasants;
a "proud crime"
against his family.
You are doing just fine, DoorGunner. Keep-up the good work.
I'm out here
cheering you onward. You got a live one on your hands at long last.
Have
fun!!!
Onward Christian Soldier, Onward.
Take good care ----------------------
Aloha,
Narrow Seadog Two Two
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Thanks and praise,
For our days,
Neath the sun,
Neath the stars,
Neath the sky,
As we go,
This we know,
God is nigh.
TAPS --- The melody that leads a soldiers soul to join Gods eternal army.
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HUGO said... Dear Sir,
Do you really mean that God himself wanted You to massacre 83 people in my wife's family... is ''heli-gunnertom'' the Christian name which you WILL use to introduce yourself to Him, after death?
They were poor vietnamese peasants, weakened by French colonialism, no health care, no career - no travel, of course, to compare with foreign solutions!!! But a very deep respect for their ancestors' honourable traditions.
How did they threaten your country? What is the ''pacific'' way out from dictatorship you could offer them, to expect a decent future for their children?
That ugly war was not your fault, indeed. But Jesus said "What you are doing to the smallest, to my humblest creatures, you are doing it to me".
And 33 years later, babies are still being born as MONSTERS, terrifying monsters, some of them with 2 HEADS and no arms... it is expected to last 50 more years. Did God instruct YOU to bring unending punishment to people who were NOT your enemies?
Yes, you look like being generous, a good listener, how could you choose to maintain such an aggressive name/reputation? Please, do leave that for brutal borderline racist desperados, and you will become a real gentleman. 
Heli gunner Tom said...Hugo, buddy,
I don't have sufficient space in this 'comment forum' to set you straight on some erroneous aspects of YOUR comment. And just like I figured, YOUR 'web site' doesn't exist-- "no profile available !!" That tells me that you are a coward who strikes a sneak blow and then disappears quickly beneath the rock you live under...Ha! I could indeed change the name of my Journal and maybe I should. Actually, I now call it "Old Soldier Tom's Journal." -- from my old AOL Journal days. That was a real mess and I was 'stuck' with 'heli-gunner Tom's blogspot.'
But I doubt you were in the military, or you would KNOW that young soldiers of ANY nation take an Oath to serve and protect their country. And just what does a 19 year old really know except that he trusts that his country will do the 'right thing.'
Yes, I HATE what our country did, like poisoning the people, yours and mine with Agent Orange! Remember, that is the Administration that YOU helped elect! I was not 'old enough to vote yet.' Too bad you are not man enough to give me your email address so that we can discuss this subject in depth and I will tell you what the Viet Cong and NVA did to the Vietnamese people and our soldiers in the way of torture, murder, mutilation, etc. Soldiers of the Lord God were instructed to kill off whole nations of men, women and kids in the Bible, for the Lord said that they were that evil and rotten to the core. I will be more than glad to discuss politics and military operations with you ANYTIME when you get your manhood back in order to give me your full name and email address. I NEVER FIRED ON ANYONE UNLESS THEY FIRED ON ME FIRST, AND I NEVER DROPPED ANY AGENT ORANGE... but I have plenty of close friends who are dying of it! Until you work up your courage and get your facts straight-- go fly a kite.
-Tom 
Carolyn said...Bravo Tom. It's sad when people will read one small part of a blog and believe they know the person who authors it. I don't doubt the vioetnam war, or any other war for that matter, has caused great harm to people- BUT, when you think of atrocities which are avoided by going militarily against dictators and brutal rejemes, well, I don't like war and I don't know anyone who does- but I know and millions of others know that it is sometimes necessary. If I wanted to play the same game mr. Hugo is playing, I could make the assumption that he is one of millions who picks and chooses which parts of the Bible which suit him, and leave all the rest as something out dated and insignificant. However, I don't know mr. Hugo- so I won't assume anything except that he owes you and all of our soldiers- past present and future, a humble appology. God Bless you Tom. Thank you for who you are.
Jimmy's Journal said...One of my best friends is a surgeon who served in the Gulf War and I guarantee you that the syndrome is real. If you've never played the game you just don't get it. It's easy to deny its existence when you sit your butt behind a desk in Washington and tell the players that it's not real. It's just like the agent orange deal...deny,deny,deny.
Jimmy - HUGO said...
Dear Mr Schuckman,
A Buddhist, yes; your ''Buddy'', probably not.
1) Although I tried to stay polite after your proud crimes against my family;
You chose to insult me (''You are a coward''... deprived of manhood... ''work up your courage''... not man enough... ''go fly a kite...''). Very american attitude?!
2) False argument: I DID mention my e-mail address. And, there, I was informed of your noble comment (if you did not know, just blame A.O.L. again, for the bad transmission, as you already blamed their "real mess").
But this is definitely out of the matter: A blog is made for expressing your most sincere convictions, completely, in the open, since YOU are not a coward.
3) False argument (inversely): I did NOT mention any website, this trumped-up quarrel is between you and yourself only. I do not hate you. Sorry for that unrest. Probably an excess of zealous Love?
4) As your authentic buddy, the Charitable £ady with a bird of prey, stresses it, Yes, I consider as being outdated, the glorious killings which you refer to ("TO KILL OFF WHOLE NATIONS OF MEN, WOMEN AND KIDS"). The name, for this, is now Genocide.
I do excuse you because the u.s. were The LAST country on earth to ratify the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. On June 1st, 2008. Four years after the other members of The United Nations.
5) Unfortunately for you, who consider mass murder as a remedy against Evil And Rotten... you got a second buddy, with the same perfect Faith: His name is Ossama bin Laden.
He speaks your exact words.
He is not a Retired heli-gunner.
HE DOES HATE YOU.
HE FEELS PROUD OF YOUR NATIONAL PANIC.
It is his only goal in life!!!
And, so, he might truly kill you ALL, without blessed B52 bomber planes, without exquisite napalm jelly, without salutary cluster bombs, without sweet Agent Orange, without refreshing flame-throwers, without Biblical ''Bouncing Betty'' land mines etc... Nasty germs would do the job easily.
OF COURSE, THIS WOULD BE NO GALLANT FIGHT. But your own theory does help him to give free way to his barbarian hysteria, without the slightest remorse........... Are you really fond of martyrdom??? Are you obliged to plead for his crazy wrong-doings, in advance?
6) Regarding your Oath to serve and protect your country, I shall skip the theme of the Conscientious Objectors - since you already explained that you approve genocide: Typically, the massacre in the EVIL village of My Lai, under command of Lieutenant Calley. A ''Free Kill Zone''. Even invalid old people were slaughtered; AND evil, rotten babies, AND cattle, evil dogs and rotten poultry. How could you forget such monsters, in your list of masterworks?
But EVERYONE ON EARTH, NOWADAYS, IS FULLY AWARE OF THE LIE: The pentagon itself disclosed the case, recently. The ''Maddox'' destroyer was on duty, to provoke a battle at sea, to legitimate the war. But it did not take place.
So, now, to speak softly, no provocative words, I ''humbly apology'' to pray you: Would you, please, explain me, what 550.000 army men in Viêt Nam were PROTECTING in your country? Since you are NOT cowards, the threat surely was crystal clear, and terrible, to need 550.000 plus thousands of planes, helicopters - and twice as much ammunition load, compared with what Germany received during World War II. Good Lord, you survived The Rotten Evil Devil's total destruction of your country. And we still ignore the details.........!
As a matter of fact, YOU, personally, you rushed there, over the ocean, to respond because ''THEY fired on you FIRST'' (you are not a coward). And to show them the Love of God because you and the brave £ady cannot forgive Brutal Rejemes.
And they were so wicked, so vicious... they did not welcome Exterminating Angels with open arms!!
Yes, I humbly apologize, I am not able to kill kill kill as happily and proudly as you did (With No Brutality at all).
I swear it, I will no longer deny deny deny your sense of charitable sacrifice.
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(B52 ''strategic'' bomber planes were blessed by Francis Joseph Cardinal Spellman, on the u.s.air force base of Bien Hoa, on Christmas eve, 1966. I saw him brilliantly smiling on television in Sài Gon, 10 miles away. And air force General Curtis Le May gently declared: "We shall bring Viêt Nam back to the stone age")
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