The Only Problem with Lies, Cover-ups, and Hiding things, is that sooner or later some smart investigator will bring it to light -- so that the entire public can see and learn about it !! This is especially true with obama too. When Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini were in power -- and killing millions of innocent people -- it must have felt like an 'eternity' to those poor souls oppressed, but all 'bad things' must come to an end... according to the Bible. But go figure, when a 'controlled, subjected country or people somehow let a tyrant into power, so many good and precious things can be 'lost forever' and people can lose their religion in a generation or two.... Look at Belarus, Bulgaria, Combodia, Russia, and some African nations. Sad.. Tragic. How many people went to hell because a generation didn't have the courage to defeat a tyrant and/ or a dictator? People roll their eyes and WONDER how a leader in education, inventions, well built autos, motorcycles, good looking, healthy populations, high IQ's, the Arts, Music, Culture, Books, inventor of the Printing Press, etc., the Diesel engine, and a supposedly 'Christian Nation' --- allow a "Mad man" to ascend to the top slot of leadership back in the 1930's... like Germany. Ha! Now, just look at how the most advanced, wealthy, cultured, helpful, generous nation of America was hood winked into electing a man who cannot even prove he was born in this country and show his college records, etc !!! He and his Socialist buddies have already destroyed America, and it only gets worse! "You ain't seen nothin' yet !" -- the name of a song by BTO... Ponder on this.
Tom Schuckman
The Gun Control Playbook: The REAL agenda formulated in 1994
Great information shared by our member by Jim Fogarty. You will see this resembles the Feinstein bill shared in another discussion.
The following is excerpted from a 1994 agenda memo from Handgun Control, Inc. (Now the Brady Campaign) The memo was mailed to me by a federal police officer I used to know, so I trust the source:
"Notes and minutes of Meeting of Friday, December 17, 1993. Rough Draft Proposal for Internal Memo and Five Year Plan"."Confidential Not For general Distribution".
"Special praise to Senator Dianne Feinstein was mentioned for her courage in standing up to the ever diminishing number of GUN CRAZY EXTREMISTS who are actually pushing to make our society a KILLING FIELD."
"What is pending now and can be law in 1994!...Ban ON ALL SEMIAUTOS WHICH CAN FIRE MORE THAN 6 BULLETS WITHOUT RELOADING." ..."Ban of all machine guns, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES , short shotguns/rifles, assault weapons..."...."Ban on possession of a firearm within a home located within 1000 feet of schoolyard." ..."Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic."..."The right of victims of gun violence to sue manufacturers and dealers to be affirmed and perhaps aided with money from government programs."...."Taxes on ammo, dealers licenses & guns to offset the medical costs to society."...."the eventual ban of all semi-automatics " – 1994 HCI Agenda Memo
"Five year plan: Licenses:"...."It is reasonable to require that all individuals must prove to the signers that they require a firearm."..."Reduction of the number of guns to require an arsenal license"..."due to the fact that any number of guns constitutes a grave threat to the safety of the community"..."no arsenal licensing be permitted in counties with populations of more than 200,000"..."requirement of federally approved storage safe for all guns"...
"Public Safety Regulations": "Ban on Manufacturing in counties with a population of more than 200,000". Guns are being built all the time and the number of licensed manufacturers are too great to justify the threat to public safety"..."The pending national ban on all assault weapons... can be expanded to eventually cover any firearm with a remotely military appearance."...."We hope that this point system can eventually be expanded to high powered air guns and "paint ball" weapons, which can inflict great damage, and with a little effort can be easily converted into real guns." ..."Banning the carrying of a firearm anywhere but home or range or in transit from one to the other."..."Control of ammunition belonging to certain surplus firearms: Senator Moynihan has already proposed a tax or ban on .22LR, 32 ACP, and 25 ACP , and 9 MM ammo,..."......"Eventual ban of handgun possession: This may be closer to reality than many of us think. Handguns are becoming increasingly unpopular and we think that within five years we can enact a total ban on possession at the federal level."...
"Ammunition and explosives: Banning of any quantity of smokeless powder or black powder which would constitute more than the equivalent of 100 rounds of ammunition. With the bombing of the World Trade Center, it has been made clear that WE MUST CONTROL ( yes the key phrase here is "we must control" everyone else's life and allow no freedom! ) the amount of explosive materials in public hands." ..."Ban on the possession of explosive powders of more than I kilogram at any one time. GUN NUTS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR CIRCUMVENTING THE INTENT OF THE LAW..."..."This additional language can be useful in preventing "Bomb-Maker" Hobbyists and other DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS ."..."Banning or strict licensing of all reloading components. Ammunition regulation laws can be regularly bypassed by home loaders..."..."National registration of ammunition or ammo buyers"..."with a possible background check to eliminate the purchase of dangerous ammo by felons or MENTAL PATIENTS."
"Gun ranges: ...waiting period for rentals on pistol ranges"
"Activities which promote gun violence: Banning Gun Shows..."BANNING OF MILITARY REENACTMENTS: THE QUESTIONABLE "HISTORICAL" VALUE OF THESE EVENTS HAS ESCAPED PUBLIC SCRUTINY FOR TOO LONG. MANY OF THESE SO CALLED HISTORICAL EVENTS ARE A MERE EXCUSE FOR GUN NUTS TO BLAST THE COUNTRYSIDE WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. WHAT IS TO KEEP THEM FROM LOADING LIVE BULLETS AND HAVING THOSE STRAY BULLETS KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN?"... Begin to curb hunting on all public lands. Blood sports are an anathema to a civilized society..." ..."MAKING GUN OWNERS RECORDS AND PHOTOS MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD"...SO THAT COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO POSES A DANGER TO THEIR COMMUNITY BEFORE DISASTER STRIKES" ..."Random police checks for weapons "...
"Banning of military accouterments: Essential to the NEANDERTHAL GUN CULTURE are the typical military clothing, CAMOUFLAGE, POUCHES, and gear, BOOTS and other combat gear ....Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century"...
"Stricter guidelines for violence in television and the movies: We should look at the possibility of victims of violence initiated by copying an act on television and the movie or video screen, suing the makers of such shows for compensation to their suffering."...
"THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF ARMS FROM SOCIETY: "
"CONTROL OF DANGEROUS LITERATURE ( bomb making, machine gun conversions, etc.) Too much irresponsible material is purportedly covered by the 1ST AMENDMENT, however the time will come when our nation has to agree THAT SOME LITERATURE DOES NOT BELONG IN A SAFE SOCIETY..." ... "We must realize that THERE CAN BE SUCH A THING AS TOO MUCH FREEDOM where such literature poses a serious threat to the public safety."
"1994 sounds like the death knell for the bully tactics of the NRA and the culture of violence in America!!"..."With the loss of power and clout of the NRA and their various smaller crony organizations crumbling to dust, we can eliminate a 200 YEAR OLD LICENSE TO MURDER into history and enter the 21st century a safer place for our children and our children’s children."
"THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL!! DO NOT DISTRIBUTE BEYOND THE OFFICES OF HCI UNLESS HAND DELIVERED TO AN APPROVED STATE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATOR OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL . ..Handgun license fees: year 1 to 2"..."year 3 to 4"..."year 5 to 8: ...$550-625 annual fee...suggested penalties for non-compliance...failure to turn over guns for destruction...$15,000/18 months in jail...The federal government estimates that around 65-75 million Americans own guns. These fees and licensing requirements would allow us to take guns out of the hands of an estimated 30 million unsuitable or ineligible individuals. The fees for the remaining qualifying individuals would additionally reduce the number to about 14 million gun owners"....
"OUR EVENTUAL GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LICENSEES TO ZERO . The revenue itself can be utilized to achieve this goal." ....Establish a nationwide system of toll free numbers for reporting violators of the new gun restrictions and non-licensees. " ..."Suing gun organizations under the RICO statute: It would be expected that gun groups and lobbying groups such as the NRA would encourage non compliance. Thus nationally recognized groups will be technically "organizing to break the law. Once this can be proven, these groups will be vulnerable to lawsuits based on the RICO statute and drained of their financial resources through repeated legal action."
"Suing the makers of toy/replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment:....The items could include: violent video games, television shows, movies, video tapes, WATER GUNS, SUPER SOAKERS, electronic noise guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items."
"TORT LAW AS WE KNOW IT MAY NOT HAVE TO UNDER GO A CHANGE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THESE ACTIONS. AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ACTUALLY WIN IN ORDER TO AFFECT CHANGE, SINCE THE CONSTANT THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION WILL INDUCE CHANGE IN THE WAY PEOPLE DO BUSINESS. "
" A QUICK GUIDE TO ARGUING WITH GUN ZEALOTS:....Our children are being threatened, murdered and cut down in the street...With tens of millions of people owning guns, the potential for lawlessness and gun massacres increases ten fold each year...THERE IS NO SPORTING PURPOSE FOR A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM ...HANDGUNS HAVE NO PURPOSES OTHER THAN KILLING PEOPLE .....SELF DEFENSE IS NO LEGITIMATE REASON FOR OWNING A GUN ... MOST GUN DEALERS SELL THOUSANDS OF GUNS ILLEGALLY TO GANGS AND CRIMINALS EVERY DAY."
" Repeat these FACTS over and over and eventually the public will begin to see the light. They cannot casually dismiss these devastating facts any more.....REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE DEFENDING THE RIGHT TO MURDER IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS ALONE MAKES THEM LOOK BRUTISH AND NEANDERTHAL...IT IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS POLITICALLY CORRECT TO OWN A GUN. Ultimately society as a whole will look upon gun owners with dread and disdain."
"Other pressing points: Military assault weapons: The confusion by the general public between semi-automatic and automatic weapons can work in our favor. Constantly dropping the words- submachine gun, fully automatic , machine gun, military weapon, high tech killing machine are good debaters tricks to instill a sense of dread over these weapons. Ultimately people will learn to dread these weapons..."
"Remember that there is no place for any kind of semi auto weapon in a safe society regardless of how it looks, since many so called sport rifles can be easily converted to military configuration. Thus all semi automatic weapons are capable of being called "assault weapons". Never let up on this fact."
"Endangerment of children: It is difficult for Gun groups to counter arguments which call attention to the endangerment of children. Making the opposition look callous creates an image of brutality and indifference to the audience...Enough is enough: Americans are sick and tired of the violence that is infecting our society...it is time for action, to take back our streets from crime, if we don't take action now this crime wave will engulf America" ( crime's been going down, sorry to disappoint you )
"Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for gangs , mentally deficient individuals and criminals across the board. The gun lobby argues that anyone at any time should have the right to buy and own these weapons of mass destruction"
The following is excerpted from a 1994 agenda memo from Handgun Control, Inc. (Now the Brady Campaign) The memo was mailed to me by a federal police officer I used to know, so I trust the source:
"Notes and minutes of Meeting of Friday, December 17, 1993. Rough Draft Proposal for Internal Memo and Five Year Plan"."Confidential Not For general Distribution".
"Special praise to Senator Dianne Feinstein was mentioned for her courage in standing up to the ever diminishing number of GUN CRAZY EXTREMISTS who are actually pushing to make our society a KILLING FIELD."
"What is pending now and can be law in 1994!...Ban ON ALL SEMIAUTOS WHICH CAN FIRE MORE THAN 6 BULLETS WITHOUT RELOADING." ..."Ban of all machine guns, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES , short shotguns/rifles, assault weapons..."...."Ban on possession of a firearm within a home located within 1000 feet of schoolyard." ..."Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic."..."The right of victims of gun violence to sue manufacturers and dealers to be affirmed and perhaps aided with money from government programs."...."Taxes on ammo, dealers licenses & guns to offset the medical costs to society."...."the eventual ban of all semi-automatics " – 1994 HCI Agenda Memo
"Five year plan: Licenses:"...."It is reasonable to require that all individuals must prove to the signers that they require a firearm."..."Reduction of the number of guns to require an arsenal license"..."due to the fact that any number of guns constitutes a grave threat to the safety of the community"..."no arsenal licensing be permitted in counties with populations of more than 200,000"..."requirement of federally approved storage safe for all guns"...
"Public Safety Regulations": "Ban on Manufacturing in counties with a population of more than 200,000". Guns are being built all the time and the number of licensed manufacturers are too great to justify the threat to public safety"..."The pending national ban on all assault weapons... can be expanded to eventually cover any firearm with a remotely military appearance."...."We hope that this point system can eventually be expanded to high powered air guns and "paint ball" weapons, which can inflict great damage, and with a little effort can be easily converted into real guns." ..."Banning the carrying of a firearm anywhere but home or range or in transit from one to the other."..."Control of ammunition belonging to certain surplus firearms: Senator Moynihan has already proposed a tax or ban on .22LR, 32 ACP, and 25 ACP , and 9 MM ammo,..."......"Eventual ban of handgun possession: This may be closer to reality than many of us think. Handguns are becoming increasingly unpopular and we think that within five years we can enact a total ban on possession at the federal level."...
"Ammunition and explosives: Banning of any quantity of smokeless powder or black powder which would constitute more than the equivalent of 100 rounds of ammunition. With the bombing of the World Trade Center, it has been made clear that WE MUST CONTROL ( yes the key phrase here is "we must control" everyone else's life and allow no freedom! ) the amount of explosive materials in public hands." ..."Ban on the possession of explosive powders of more than I kilogram at any one time. GUN NUTS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR CIRCUMVENTING THE INTENT OF THE LAW..."..."This additional language can be useful in preventing "Bomb-Maker" Hobbyists and other DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS ."..."Banning or strict licensing of all reloading components. Ammunition regulation laws can be regularly bypassed by home loaders..."..."National registration of ammunition or ammo buyers"..."with a possible background check to eliminate the purchase of dangerous ammo by felons or MENTAL PATIENTS."
"Gun ranges: ...waiting period for rentals on pistol ranges"
"Activities which promote gun violence: Banning Gun Shows..."BANNING OF MILITARY REENACTMENTS: THE QUESTIONABLE "HISTORICAL" VALUE OF THESE EVENTS HAS ESCAPED PUBLIC SCRUTINY FOR TOO LONG. MANY OF THESE SO CALLED HISTORICAL EVENTS ARE A MERE EXCUSE FOR GUN NUTS TO BLAST THE COUNTRYSIDE WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. WHAT IS TO KEEP THEM FROM LOADING LIVE BULLETS AND HAVING THOSE STRAY BULLETS KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN?"... Begin to curb hunting on all public lands. Blood sports are an anathema to a civilized society..." ..."MAKING GUN OWNERS RECORDS AND PHOTOS MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD"...SO THAT COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO POSES A DANGER TO THEIR COMMUNITY BEFORE DISASTER STRIKES" ..."Random police checks for weapons "...
"Banning of military accouterments: Essential to the NEANDERTHAL GUN CULTURE are the typical military clothing, CAMOUFLAGE, POUCHES, and gear, BOOTS and other combat gear ....Elimination of the future sale of these items will cripple the culture of violence well into the 21st century"...
"Stricter guidelines for violence in television and the movies: We should look at the possibility of victims of violence initiated by copying an act on television and the movie or video screen, suing the makers of such shows for compensation to their suffering."...
"THE TOTAL ELIMINATION OF ARMS FROM SOCIETY: "
"CONTROL OF DANGEROUS LITERATURE ( bomb making, machine gun conversions, etc.) Too much irresponsible material is purportedly covered by the 1ST AMENDMENT, however the time will come when our nation has to agree THAT SOME LITERATURE DOES NOT BELONG IN A SAFE SOCIETY..." ... "We must realize that THERE CAN BE SUCH A THING AS TOO MUCH FREEDOM where such literature poses a serious threat to the public safety."
"1994 sounds like the death knell for the bully tactics of the NRA and the culture of violence in America!!"..."With the loss of power and clout of the NRA and their various smaller crony organizations crumbling to dust, we can eliminate a 200 YEAR OLD LICENSE TO MURDER into history and enter the 21st century a safer place for our children and our children’s children."
"THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL!! DO NOT DISTRIBUTE BEYOND THE OFFICES OF HCI UNLESS HAND DELIVERED TO AN APPROVED STATE OF FEDERAL LEGISLATOR OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL . ..Handgun license fees: year 1 to 2"..."year 3 to 4"..."year 5 to 8: ...$550-625 annual fee...suggested penalties for non-compliance...failure to turn over guns for destruction...$15,000/18 months in jail...The federal government estimates that around 65-75 million Americans own guns. These fees and licensing requirements would allow us to take guns out of the hands of an estimated 30 million unsuitable or ineligible individuals. The fees for the remaining qualifying individuals would additionally reduce the number to about 14 million gun owners"....
"OUR EVENTUAL GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LICENSEES TO ZERO . The revenue itself can be utilized to achieve this goal." ....Establish a nationwide system of toll free numbers for reporting violators of the new gun restrictions and non-licensees. " ..."Suing gun organizations under the RICO statute: It would be expected that gun groups and lobbying groups such as the NRA would encourage non compliance. Thus nationally recognized groups will be technically "organizing to break the law. Once this can be proven, these groups will be vulnerable to lawsuits based on the RICO statute and drained of their financial resources through repeated legal action."
"Suing the makers of toy/replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment:....The items could include: violent video games, television shows, movies, video tapes, WATER GUNS, SUPER SOAKERS, electronic noise guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items."
"TORT LAW AS WE KNOW IT MAY NOT HAVE TO UNDER GO A CHANGE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THESE ACTIONS. AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ACTUALLY WIN IN ORDER TO AFFECT CHANGE, SINCE THE CONSTANT THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION WILL INDUCE CHANGE IN THE WAY PEOPLE DO BUSINESS. "
" A QUICK GUIDE TO ARGUING WITH GUN ZEALOTS:....Our children are being threatened, murdered and cut down in the street...With tens of millions of people owning guns, the potential for lawlessness and gun massacres increases ten fold each year...THERE IS NO SPORTING PURPOSE FOR A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM ...HANDGUNS HAVE NO PURPOSES OTHER THAN KILLING PEOPLE .....SELF DEFENSE IS NO LEGITIMATE REASON FOR OWNING A GUN ... MOST GUN DEALERS SELL THOUSANDS OF GUNS ILLEGALLY TO GANGS AND CRIMINALS EVERY DAY."
" Repeat these FACTS over and over and eventually the public will begin to see the light. They cannot casually dismiss these devastating facts any more.....REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE DEFENDING THE RIGHT TO MURDER IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS ALONE MAKES THEM LOOK BRUTISH AND NEANDERTHAL...IT IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS POLITICALLY CORRECT TO OWN A GUN. Ultimately society as a whole will look upon gun owners with dread and disdain."
"Other pressing points: Military assault weapons: The confusion by the general public between semi-automatic and automatic weapons can work in our favor. Constantly dropping the words- submachine gun, fully automatic , machine gun, military weapon, high tech killing machine are good debaters tricks to instill a sense of dread over these weapons. Ultimately people will learn to dread these weapons..."
"Remember that there is no place for any kind of semi auto weapon in a safe society regardless of how it looks, since many so called sport rifles can be easily converted to military configuration. Thus all semi automatic weapons are capable of being called "assault weapons". Never let up on this fact."
"Endangerment of children: It is difficult for Gun groups to counter arguments which call attention to the endangerment of children. Making the opposition look callous creates an image of brutality and indifference to the audience...Enough is enough: Americans are sick and tired of the violence that is infecting our society...it is time for action, to take back our streets from crime, if we don't take action now this crime wave will engulf America" ( crime's been going down, sorry to disappoint you )
"Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for gangs , mentally deficient individuals and criminals across the board. The gun lobby argues that anyone at any time should have the right to buy and own these weapons of mass destruction"
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