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Hi, This following message was passed along to me by another friend, named George, a combat aviation, Vietnam Vet, who lives in La. THANK YOU, GEORGE !! I was kind of wondering about the "how's and why's of future conditions" and how to 'zig zag', go with the flow, survive, etc., and it's too cool to find out that I was correct about some things, but maybe wrong about others. We study and read things in the KJV Bible about the real TRUTH of what will come to pass, but we don't always know exactly how, or by what means that things will happen.
I have told my story many times, how I was laid off my good paying job at Chrysler in 1989, for 5-6 years, "on the street"-- working anywhere I could, mainly as a welder... and it was one heck of a butt-kicking, humble experience! I survived only because Father God loved and cared for me, and because of my college and Army skills, IMHO. PTL ! Praise the Lord !! And for a short time that I was given an opportunity in Finance, and Investments, I also learned MANY smart things/ moves, and sayings. All money does, for example, is: "Gives you an OPTION !" When you are piss poor -- you don't have many options, sorry. Just like: You may have to eat just tuna, or beans and rice 5 days out of a week, just to survive, and please try to sell me some sick baloney about how you could live on just chicken or pizza -- 7 days a week, if you've never done it ! ! ! Understand that most Soldiers and Marines have already got you beat, because they 'HAD TO ENDURE BAD, ROUGH, ROTTEN things, just to survive, and sometimes just training is not enough to carry you through !! And I could tell you all many stories....
Please read, and share this.
Tom Schuckman
Thanks will do that here is something you might want to pass along scary
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The following article was published at NC Renegade (by Tom P., the apparent author of this story) and News with Views by Kelleigh Nelson. It is a “must read.” Readers, things are taking place at a pace faster than many have expected- Doug Hagmann
March 27, 2014: The following is a true story about a recent experience I had while shopping at the local WalMart. I hope you find it as eye opening as I did. (comment by original author).
One recent, busy afternoon at WalMart, I finished shopping and headed for the checkout lanes to complete my visit. The lines were quite long so I found myself wishing that I had started with a shopping cart because my arms were already getting tired from the heavy load. Most of the people ahead of me had full carts so I figured that I was in for a long, tedious wait. Suddenly a little bearded man appeared behind me, and then quickly stepped into the line next to me as he surveyed the other lanes looking for the shortest wait. His unique appearance caught my attention. He looked like a person one might imagine seeing at a foreign market.
He wore a tight fitting green tweed sport coat, a little hat, and had a long pointed beard. His cheeks were darkly tanned and deeply wrinkled. His eyes looked intelligent, the best I could tell. As he darted between lines evaluating his options I said to him, “You can’t win.” He smiled and fell into line behind me. “Now perhaps I could speak to him,” I thought to myself, but before I was able to do so another younger man fell into line behind him and the two started speaking in a language I was not familiar with. Now, I can identify a half dozen or more languages, but this one was completely unfamiliar to me, so I seized the opportunity and blurted out, “Now that’s a language I am not familiar with.” The younger, more western looking man replied, “We are speaking Romanian,” rolling his “R’s” as you would imagine. Finally this conversation was off and running and we would have plenty of time because of the long line, if only my arms would hold out!
“You are both from Romania?” I asked. “Yes,” the younger man replied. Being curious about the older gentleman who had first caught my attention, I nodded in his direction and asked, “Does he speak English too?” The younger man’s reply was, “My father does speak English, but when I am around he prefers for me to do the speaking.” “So this is your father?” I asked. The son smiled and nodded in the affirmative. “Were you born here?” I asked the son. “No, I was born in Romania. I was 14 when we immigrated to the United States in 1982.” With a little quick math in my head I had the son pegged at around 43 years old, which corresponded with his appearance. That would place his father at perhaps somewhere around 70. Wanting to make this conversation count, I asked “Wasn’t Romania a communist country for most of your lives?” “Yes, Romania was put under Russian communist control in 1947,” the son replied.
“What was it like living under communism?” I asked. “There were good things and bad things about it,” he said. Surprised that there could have been anything good about it I asked, “What was good about it?!” “Well, the government controlled the currency so there was no inflation and there were no taxes.” “No taxes?” I asked. “Yes, the government owns everything to start with so they don’t have to tax you, they just give you what they want to give you. My father is a farmer. They took his land away from him and made him work on a government collective farm.”
“Do you think America will fall to communism eventually?” I asked, hoping they wouldn’t mind such a far-flung, probing question. “It’s already started here and it’s moving fast. It will be worse here,” he said. What a time for the cashier to be asking me, “Will that be all, sir,” when I was just getting started with two Romanians who had fled communism after being forced to live under it. From here on, it was going to be a matter of following these two living legends out of the WalMart store and across the parking lot so I could hear the rest of the story.
As we turned to go out the doors, I said confidently, “There is a difference here in America, you know. Americans are armed. They will not allow such a takeover.” He replied, “It doesn’t matter. The Romanian people believed very strongly that Romania would never submit to communism, but it happened quickly. The Romanian people were armed, but it didn’t matter. Communists use informants. They get neighbors to report on their neighbors who have guns, then the authorities come and seize them. They use torture to get compliance. Many Romanian men were burned alive for not turning over their guns, and some didn’t even have guns, but the authorities burned them anyway just to strike fear in the rest. You have to understand that communists use a lot of torture.”
My heart quickened as I listened to these live witnesses tell me the inside story about a communist takeover. I tried one more time, “You don’t understand, Americans are armed with a lot more guns and a lot more ammunition than other countries.” He repeated, “It doesn’t matter. They have more soldiers than you have bullets, besides in this country they have sophisticated means. Americans will not stand a chance against this government any more than we did. Your guns will be good for one thing – looters. When things get bad enough you will need your guns to keep looters away from what you have. In Katrina there were a lot of people killed by looters because they did not have guns to defend themselves. For a while you will need guns to protect yourself from other Americans. Eventually the government will confiscate all of them.”
By now we had walked to their car, a nice midsized sedan and I stood there feeling kind of glum. This was a whole lot more than I came to WalMart for. On a lighter note I said, “You weren’t here in America back then, but this was really a great country back in the 50’s and 60’s and even the 70’s and 80’s.” He said, “Oh, I know! It was a great country in 1982 when my parents sacrificed everything they had in the world to bring us here. We were even required to permanently denounce our Romanian citizenship in order to be allowed to leave Romania. I know many other international people. Five years ago they would still sacrifice everything to come here, but now it is different. Now they ask, ‘What is going on in America?’ It has changed and people are not making the sacrifice as much because what they are fleeing from is coming here now.”
He pointed to his father, the curious-looking little man who was the genesis of our whole conversation, who had dutifully stood alongside and listened to this entire conversation without saying a word, and the son said, “My father spent 5 years in a Romanian communist prison because of his faith.” “Because of his faith?” I asked. The son said, “My father was drafted into the Romanian army by the communists in 1950 and required to take an oath to kill any enemy of the government. Because of his faith he refused to take the oath so he was sent to prison from 1950 until 1955. And when I say ‘prison,’ it was not like what we have here, with four walls and 3 meals. It was outdoors, like a Nazi concentration camp. When someone would die they would just bury him in the mud.” I stood there on the pavement staring into the father’s eyes as the son told me about his father’s incarceration. It was obvious that the father understood every word that we were saying and that it brought back painful memories. He stared back at me for the longest time. It was like there was a fiber optic cable running between us with much being said without words. I stepped toward the father and extended my hand and he shook it. I didn’t know what else to say at the moment, so I thanked him for telling me his story. He smiled, nodded yes, and got into the car.
I asked the son if he had any suggestions and he said, “Yes. When it happens, don’t fight it. If you go along with them and make the best of it you can do quite well. If you resist you will be tormented, tortured, or hunted down and killed.”
I thanked the son for sharing his story as he got into the car. They drove off and left me standing in the parking lot stunned by the experience. I checked both directions before crossing traffic and walked straight back into WalMart and bought another box of bullets. It’s an American thing.
This story rings very true. If you do not understand what happened in Romania, and what communists are really like, I urge you to purchase the small book, Marx and Satan, by Pastor Richard Wurmbrand. He spent 13 years being tortured by Romanian Marxists because of his faith
Hi Friends, and readers,
Here is a snippet of what goes on in our Tea Party, on-line, etc. This fine gentleman, Oren, had some great things to share with the membership, and very important/ educating! I HOPE I don't get into trouble, or 'break any of our rules' by posting this good stuff --- but I really felt that all Americans ought to know these important things !! Our membership is the 'Salt of the Earth' with many smart, educated Christians, many older, mature, retired and knowledgeable Combat Veterans, too ! PTL. I always learn something when I enter their conversations, and discussions.
Enjoy.... and perhaps join our fine Patriotic, Constitution-loving Group !!!
Warm Regards,
Tom Schuckman
Permalink Reply by Oren Long
Bear with me on this and please don't just skip to the 'comments' section without reading it.
Agenda 21 is a TREATY, and international treaty. Treaties are legally binding BETWEEN nations, not WITHIN nations. For example, America cannot make a treaty with another nation (or vice verse) that allows us (or them) to govern the INTERNAL workings of each other's nation. In other words, treaties are INTERnational, not INTRAnational.
The Ninth Amendment says, "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." It is vitally important to understand that the word "rights" had dual meaning when it was included in the Ninth Amendment. "Rights" also meant "powers". In other words, "...certain rights..." referred to those powers granted to government. What the Ninth Amendment says is that government cannot use its "rights" (powers) to "...deny or disparage..." the "rights" of the people as guaranteed in the Constitution.
Now, Agenda 21: Article Two, Section Two, Paragraph Two gives the president ("with the advice and consent of the Senate") the power to make treaties. BUT, under the Ninth Amendment he cannot use that power to "deny or disparage" the rights of the people. For example, let's take the Small Arms Treaty issue. True, such a treaty CAN regulate, or even shut down, INTERnational arms shipments/sales; BUT, it cannot be used to take away the Second Amendment rights of Americans to "keep and bear arms". That would be an INTRAnational treaty and, as such, is patently illegal, null, and void. Any American would be completely justified in forcibly resisting such governmental tyranny.
As Americans we are governed INTERNALLY by the Constitution and the Constitution, alone unless and until we leave American shores.
Does any of this make any sense to you?
Oren
Agenda 21 is a TREATY, and international treaty. Treaties are legally binding BETWEEN nations, not WITHIN nations. For example, America cannot make a treaty with another nation (or vice verse) that allows us (or them) to govern the INTERNAL workings of each other's nation. In other words, treaties are INTERnational, not INTRAnational.
The Ninth Amendment says, "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." It is vitally important to understand that the word "rights" had dual meaning when it was included in the Ninth Amendment. "Rights" also meant "powers". In other words, "...certain rights..." referred to those powers granted to government. What the Ninth Amendment says is that government cannot use its "rights" (powers) to "...deny or disparage..." the "rights" of the people as guaranteed in the Constitution.
Now, Agenda 21: Article Two, Section Two, Paragraph Two gives the president ("with the advice and consent of the Senate") the power to make treaties. BUT, under the Ninth Amendment he cannot use that power to "deny or disparage" the rights of the people. For example, let's take the Small Arms Treaty issue. True, such a treaty CAN regulate, or even shut down, INTERnational arms shipments/sales; BUT, it cannot be used to take away the Second Amendment rights of Americans to "keep and bear arms". That would be an INTRAnational treaty and, as such, is patently illegal, null, and void. Any American would be completely justified in forcibly resisting such governmental tyranny.
As Americans we are governed INTERNALLY by the Constitution and the Constitution, alone unless and until we leave American shores.
Does any of this make any sense to you?
Oren
I tried to cut and paste another friend's email comment about Oren's intellect and writing ability, but I messed it up, some what.... sorry. My friend's name is George, and I think his call name is: Proudvietvet58 [-- and his name is George].
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From: ProudVet 58 [George]:
Oren is very knowledgable indeed! I have seen a lot of his comments!
This information is good to have. We need to spread it around as much as possible Brother. Obama and Holder will "Try" to use Agenda 21 against us!!
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