TOM'S JOURNAL.---"The Man in the Door“.: "Adam was not Decieved, but the Woman."

Monday, August 31, 2015

"Adam was not Decieved, but the Woman."

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Friends and Readers:

I have oft wondered exactly what the true meaning of this one scripture means, so I could tamp it down firm in my intellect/ mind/ brain.   For the record, 'I seek knowledge NOT to boast, impress, Lord it over my fellow Believers/ brothers and sisters, to be some big shot, or great lord....   but to finally understand things that are a big foggy, unclear, unresolved, in my small pea brained, imperfect brain box, dear friends.   I HOPE that is also the reason that many of you read my humble, modest blog posts.   Non of us wants to wonder around, dizzy, goofy, deceived or mistaken, let alone beguiled.

However, I do enjoy being right/ correct about the most important things in the Universe !!   Smile.   God, please let me search Your Word to learn the whole Truth, and what You want us humans to learn and do. IJN. Amen. [in Jesus Name].

Taking abo8ut "Women's Lib" --- as was mentioned at the Sunday morning Worship service at church.... [Family Baptist church, in Iron Mtn., MI 49801].   The good pastor whom I love as a brother and friend, I thought did a good job on the 'flip side' of our recent studies as to "What a Husband ought to do, and act, according to the Bible."   Well, yesterday, he turned his attention to the "Wives" duties, and how they should act toward their own Husbands.   I guess I 'misunderstood' my wife, Terri, when she mumbled that she HATED that sermon.... LOL, but latter changed it to: 'Her RLS, and leg nerves, etc., were vexing her all thru that sermon....'----  but  I took notes.  I will give her the benefit of the doubt, because my hearing is not so good these days.   Right now she is doing all her last minute things because she is leaving for another bi-monthly ROAD TRIP to visit her offspring, or do them some favors.
       Well,   I asked the Lord to JUST provide me with a place to stay this Winter, and accept any and all verbal abuse that comes with the territory.... and I guess that is what I will get.     A smart lady told me to just leave all my troubles at the foot of the Cross, and that is what I am trying to do.

But now, digging into the scriptures on the subject of 'teaching our wives and children what they need to do in the marriage deal, can be a real Trek, command from God.'   What If ? ! ?   --What if the wife hide or pretended to be a nice, polite, meek, cooperative woman from then start...   but underneath she was a nasty witch, and full of the devil, super INDEPENDENT ???   Now we are in for a fierce, knock down --drag out fight for life....Ha!   "Been there -- Done that."   I have been raised [right or wrong] to take the lead, pull the heavy load, work all the time and do what was best for the family. [German-American style], but I did NOT want to be or act like my father [on earth],   sorry. I thought that he was too demanding, too strict, without ever hugging or loving his family, also berating, scolding, and being too mean, cutting his wife and kids down and making them feel worthless.   That is my humble opinion.   So when I was flying one day, as a crew member in a Huey Helicopter, on a DCS mission, I really thought about going home to the States [the real World, as we said.], and meeting some girl and starting my own family --- IF I got out of RVN [Vietnam] ALIVE and in one piece.   The Lord blessed me, and saved me from death many times, and it all came together, but I had a lot to learn and grow into.   I made many mistakes and did stupid things, but I finally got it right, Praise the Lord !   I still am a sinner, but I know that I am Saved, and Loved by my eternal Father in Heaven ! PTL.     Living and Learning are such that we must continue to do it, until we are called to heaven.   All of us are in "subjection" in one way or another. The wife SHOULD BE IN SUBJECTION TO HER HUSBAND, but the husband must be in subjection to Christ, and so on.
So we are all relative Servants in one way or another.   Stupid people who don't believe in God --- really do, as they make their sexual appetite, food, games, houses and hot rods a god, weather they admit it or not. Let's just wait and see if I [and others] are correct on September 20th, 2015, when the Pope comes to give an address to the U.S. Congress, admonishing all Catholics, etc., bending down and accepting a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT ! !   People of that persuasion will have to unplug their ears and take off they blinders on that day.   Let me repeat: It's not what guys like me, want, or wish for.   It's what the inerrant Word of God says will happen.   Hey !   I am just a serious KJV Bible student, and I want to be on the 'winning side' for a change !   Weather it's a fulfilled CURSE from God, or if it's just "self-inflicted" by poor stewardship, and fumbling the ball in the back field... it's still going to happen, and I've given multiple scriptures for proof, for many years now !
       So, I should keep my big mouth shut, but I do consider myself a "Prepper", of sorts, and I have stored up some drinking water, and a few cans of Boston Baked Beans and toilet paper... lol. Terri thought I was stark raving crazy in the beginning, but she now sees SOME wisdom in what I do.   Some say, why am I doing these things, that the Rapture is coming soon, but I tell them that I am just wanting to have some Spam and beans, between right NOW ---- and the Rapture, that's all.   I don't have that much money anyway, and my debts and bills continue to eat me up.   Join the real world, says my good pastor.   OK...

OK, I've had one muffin to eat all day long, and now it's 3 PM, with nothing prepared, but my wife is leaving, again.... another road trip.   That is my lot in life, but God will judge us all, in the end.   I take a lot of vitamins and special Herbs to help me live, breathe and function.

I got at least an hour and a half of pure, good, sunshine today !! And that is so good for my skin, even if it does smart a bit !   Thank You, dear Lord !

All Praise and Honor go to My Lord, Jesus,

Tommy

My GoldWing, 6 cylinder motorcycle had a "Pro-Life" sticker on the right side. What a beautiful, powerful, expensive Beast !! My knees got so bad that I had to give up biking.... so sad. So, now I drive a new, 2015, Ram 4 by 4, Dodge pick up truck ! Smile ! Email: tschuckman@aol.com

World English Bible
Adam wasn't deceived, but the woman, being deceived, has fallen into disobedience;
Young's Literal Translation
and Adam was not deceived, but the woman, having been deceived, into transgression came,

Parallel Commentaries

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
2:8-15 Under the gospel, prayer is not to be confined to any one particular house of prayer, but men must pray every where. We must pray in our closets, pray in our families, pray at our meals, pray when we are on journeys, and pray in the solemn assemblies, whether more public or private. We must pray in charity; without wrath, or malice, or anger at any person. We must pray in faith, without doubting, and without disputing. Women who profess the Christian religion, must be modest in apparel, not affecting gaudiness, gaiety, or costliness. Good works are the best ornament; these are, in the sight of God, of great price. Modesty and neatness are more to be consulted in garments than elegance and fashion. And it would be well if the professors of serious godliness were wholly free from vanity in dress. They should spend more time and money in relieving the sick and distressed, than in decorating themselves and their children. To do this in a manner unsuitable to their rank in life, and their profession of godliness, is sinful. These are not trifles, but Divine commands. The best ornaments for professors of godliness, are good works. According to St. Paul, women are not allowed to be public teachers in the church; for teaching is an office of authority. But good women may and ought to teach their children at home the principles of true religion. Also, women must not think themselves excused from learning what is necessary to salvation, though they must not usurp authority. As woman was last in the creation, which is one reason for her subjection, so she was first in the transgression. But there is a word of comfort; that those who continue in sobriety, shall be saved in child-bearing, or with child-bearing, by the Messiah, who was born of a woman. And the especial sorrow to which the female sex is subject, should cause men to exercise their authority with much gentleness, tenderness, and affection.
Pulpit Commentary
Verse 14. - Beguiled (twice) for deceived, A.V.; hath fallen into for was in the, A.V. Beguiled (ἠπατήθη). The same word as is used in Genesis 3:13, "The serpent beguiled me;" ἠπάτησέ με, LXX. (comp. 2 Corinthians 11:3, where the verb used is ἐξηπάτησεν). Hath fallen into transgression. Fell (not hath fallen) is the right tense to use here in English, though the Greek perfect, it is true, contains the further idea of continuance in the fall, as in 1 Corinthians 9:22; 1 Corinthians 13:11; 1 Thessalonians 2:1; 2 Peter 2:20. So also Matthew 1:22; Matthew 19:8; Matthew 21:4; Matthew 25:6; Mark 5:33; John 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:19; and elsewhere, γέγονε is best rendered by the past (not the perfect) tense. It has frequently the notion of transition into a certain condition (see Romans 6:5; Romans 7:13; 1 Corinthians 9:22; 1 Corinthians 13:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; 2 Corinthians 12:11; Galatians 4:16, etc.). Bishop Ellicott gives the passages in which γίγνομαι ισ followed, as here, by ἐν (Luke 22:44; Acts 22:17; 2 Corinthians 3:7; 1 Thessalonians 2:5), "denoting entrance into, and continuance in, any given state." As regards the apostle's statement, Adam was not beguiled, we must understand it as based merely upon the text in Genesis to which he refers, in which Eve (not Adam) says, Ὁ ὄφις ἠπάτησε με, "The serpent beguiled me." Just as in Galatians 3:16 he reasons from σπέρματι being in the singular number, and as the writer to the Hebrews 7:3 reasons from the silence of Genesis 14. regarding the parentage of Melchizedek. Huther (in lee.) says that this mode of reasoning is peculiar to allegorical interpretation.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
And Adam was not deceived,.... There is no need to say with interpreters, that he was not deceived first; and that he was not deceived immediately by the serpent, but by Eve; and that he is never said in Scripture to be deceived, as Melchizedek is never said to have a father or mother. The apostle's positive assertion is to be taken without any such limitations or qualifications; Adam never was deceived at all; neither by the serpent, with whom he never conversed; nor by his wife, he knew what he did, when he took the fruit of her, and ate; he ate it not under any deception, or vain imagination, that they should not die, but should be as gods, knowing good and evil. He took and ate out of love to his wife, from a fond affection to her, to bear her company, and that she might not die alone; he knew what he did, and he knew what would be the consequence of it, the death of them both; and inasmuch as he sinned wilfully, and against light and knowledge, without any deception, his sin was the greater: and hereby death came in, and passed on all men, who sinned in him:
but the woman being deceived was in the transgression: and the serpent really beguiled her; she owned it herself, Genesis 3:13. And this is elsewhere said of her, 2 Corinthians 11:3 which never is of Adam. She really thought the serpent spoke truth, that she and her husband should not die, if they ate of the fruit; but that it was good to make them wise; and that, upon eating it, they should be as gods, knowing good and evil; and under this deception she fell into the transgression, and was the cause and means, by her persuasions and example, of bringing her husband into the same sin; which involved him and all his posterity in ruin and destruction. And therefore she is called by the Jews (p) , "the mother of iniquity and sin"; to which they refer, Psalm 51:5. And they say, (q) she was the cause of death to Adam, and to all the world: See Gill on Romans 5:12. And they observe (r) the order of the punishment of the serpent, Eve, and Adam, as of their sin; the serpent was first accursed, then Eve, and last of all Adam. They say
"(s) Samael (the devil) could not subvert Adam, till the serpent came and turned the heart of Eve, and Eve turned his heart, and they both sinned; wherefore it is said, "the woman which thou gavest me"; Samael had no power to turn him, till Eve came, and she was the cause of his eating.''
Now inasmuch as the serpent did not attack Adam, he being the stronger and more knowing person, and less capable of being managed and seduced; but made his attempt on Eve, in which he succeeded; and since not Adam, but Eve, was deceived, it appears that the man is the more proper person to bear rule and authority, as in civil and domestic, so in ecclesiastic affairs; and it is right for the woman to learn, and the man to teach: and seeing that Eve was the cause of transgression to Adam, and of punishment to him and his posterity, the subjection of the woman to the man was confirmed afresh: and she was brought into a more depressed state of dependence on him, and subjection to him; see Genesis 3:16. The Ethiopic version renders the text, "Adam hath not deceived, the woman hath deceived and prevaricated".
(p) Tzeror Hammor, fol. 141. 3.((q) T. Hieros. Sabbat, fol. 5. 2. Zohar in Gcn. fol. 27. 3. Caphtor, fol. 37. 2.((r) T. Bab. Erubin, fol. 18. 1. & Taanith, fol. 15. 2. Bereshit Rabba, sect. 20. fol. 17. 1.((s) Midrash Ruth in Zohar in Gen. fol. 27. 3.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
14. Adam was not deceived—as Eve was deceived by the serpent; but was persuaded by his wife. Ge 3:17, "hearkened unto … voice of … wife." But in Ge 3:13, Eve says, "The serpent beguiled me." Being more easily deceived, she more easily deceives [Bengel], (2Co 11:3). Last in being, she was first in sin—indeed, she alone was deceived. The subtle serpent knew that she was "the weaker vessel" (1Pe 3:7). He therefore tempted her, not Adam. She yielded to the temptations of sense and the deceits of Satan; he, to conjugal love. Hence, in the order of God's judicial sentence, the serpent, the prime offender, stands first; the woman, who was deceived, next; and the man, persuaded by his wife, last (Ge 3:14-19). In Ro 5:12, Adam is represented as the first transgressor; but there no reference is made to Eve, and Adam is regarded as the head of the sinning race. Hence, as here, 1Ti 2:11, in Ge 3:16, woman's "subjection" is represented as the consequence of her being deceived.
being deceived—The oldest manuscripts read the compound Greek verb for the simple, "Having been seduced by deceit": implying how completely Satan succeeded in deceiving her.
was in the transgression—Greek, "came to be in the transgression": became involved in the existing state of transgression, literally, "the going beyond a command"; breach of a positive precept (Ro 4:15).
1 Timothy 2:14 Additional Commentaries

Context

Instructions to Women
…13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.

Cross References

Genesis 3:6
When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Genesis 3:13
Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

Treasury of Scripture

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